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Published on April 29, 2008 By Nequa In Everything Else
As China continues to rise without any signs of stoping, it seems more and more likly that America is going to be second place. Will America fall into second, or will china succues stop and America will be number one until the next up and coming country wants to take first. What do you think?
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on Oct 21, 2008

This aint a blog.......it's a forum.

on Oct 21, 2008

This aint a blog.......it's a forum.

It's both, actually, if the OP has a site at impulsedriven.net or joeuser.com.

on Oct 26, 2008

Sethbeastalan



Quoting SpacePony,
reply 20
with less than 120 days left in office, our beloved leader has figured out away to distroy our economy and to crush any future chance of America remaining a super power for more than a generation or two.

The bill is now coming due and we have no way to pay it.



This situation has been brewing for years, and there is even an arguement that it was mainly because of the Clinton administration. Saying that happened out of the blue is rediculous.

 

oh yes I forgot the ten trillion debt that Clinton had to deal with, oh wait it was only five trillion, the current administration built up more debt than the entire debt of all preceding administrations combined!  We knew even before he took office what would happen if we piled on that much debt. So I will be happy to say that the current administration is responsible for only 50% of the problem and that all the rest of the administrations over the last fifty years are responsible for the other 50%.  I will exclude from that list only those who presented and pushed for a balanced budget.  As for the economic mistakes that occurred, could you name one that Bush inherited that he did not have time to correct during the last eight years? (I will even exclude the first two years of his administration from responsibility for any changes that needed to be addressed)

The policies that brought about the current economic collapse also were started under his administration.

This is not happen out of the blue, that is true, and many of us saw this coming a few years ago. Now it is here and most of it is a direct result of the policies of the administration that has controlled the White House for the last eight years.

Also, would you be so kind as to point out just one thing that Clinton did that contributed to this mess that the current administration could not have corrected over the last six years?

 

on Oct 26, 2008


This aint a blog.......it's a forum.
It's both, actually, if the OP has a site at impulsedriven.net or joeuser.com.

 

I do. I actually think I will try to be more active.

on Oct 29, 2008

i dont beleive so as the US caused the current economical crisis.

on Sep 15, 2009

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on Oct 01, 2009

Nivad_Blue
Russia fell from economic power and it was still considered a superpower.

Cheers Everybody

Well technically it shouldn't be considered a superpower as a superpower is supposed to describe a clear leader in terms of diplomatic, economic and military strength.

on Oct 01, 2009

so much anti American Military............its hilarious. all the nay sayers are the same ones that cry for it when war comes around and the military isnt ready. The only two wars the U.S. has been ready for was the War On Terrorism and the Gulf War, and even there we still had alot to adapt to. But every war prior to we had to scramble to get ontop, literally our ability to adapt has been Americas key to success. And will continue to help us Succeed.

This country isnt as bad as everyone likes to make it seem. Yeah there is ALOT wrong with this country, I wont totally deny that. Especially the damn politicians..............and as far as the guy that made the statement about the Clintons being decent people? I guess lying to the people about getting his loins sucked on was just a mistake, Democrats dont lie.....only Republicans do. Everyone knows that.......ha right. (sarcasism for anyone who arent smart enough to notice)

And anyone who thinks we dont provide anything more then "technology" you need to recheck your information, The U.S. is one of the biggest suppliers of food to third world countries that cant produce enough food to provide for their own people. Be it mostly rice, atleast its more then alot of countries are doing. I dont think Ive ever heard of Russia or China doing HUGE humanitarian missions. I have heard about them invading other nations just to show they still have what takes to take without any reasoning................Georgia........Tibet................but that fact will fall on deaf ears since the U.S. was SOOO out of line for doing something they should have done almost 15 years prior to invading IRAQ. If we should be pissed about anything, it should be the U.S.'s lack of action for 10 years, mostly because Democrats had office, and when it came to shooting off some rounds at an idiot that wanted a Genocide or felt ballsy enough to invest in WMD their reaction was under the table tactics that involved SpecOps and "PeaceKeeping" cause war is just soo damn barbariac......Yet war is the only thing that has ever been able to "clean house" when people like Hitler, Mussolini and a very long list of others took power and threatened the normalcy of everyday life.

As said in an earlier post. The wars in Iraq and Afganistan keeps the wolves from getting to our sheep.

As a Veteran of both OIF and OEF I can tell you, As a grunt tasked with Security in Iraq as well as the Phillipines (bet most of you didnt know were there as well) I did more humanitarian missions then actual security oriented missions.  Namely because the U.S. very much wants to fix not just what we did but what these other Factions we helped shutdown did. And anyone screaming how the World hates the U.S. is either very misinformed or is one of the few that are brainwashed enough to believe the U.S. is the sum of all evil. Without the U.S. Id hate to see where this world would be. It is said that if the U.S. hadnt been attacked by the Japanese in 1941, And Hitler hadnt pushed for Russia, Hitler would have taken the U.S. by the 1950s. The world would literally be a different place today, Thank god the U.S. forced Japans hand when they refused to supply Japan with essential resources to fuel its warpath in the Pacific. Besides all of this, Both sides of the U.S. Government Democrat and Republicans are really nothing more then leeches on our system. Neither side has ever sent the U.S. in the right direction atleast long enough to have any positive effect before diverting it for their own personal agenda.

As far as staying a World Power, well, we wont be forever, but to truely say when well fall, cant be predicted, with the creation of WMD's it changes the game. Prior to WW1Worl d Powers fell in on themselves. While that still happens, its not the only way for the big boys to fall anymore. Believe it or not, but terrorism has the ability to truely overrun a government. The North East of the U.S. has the majority of Nuclear Reactors in the U.S. If anyone wanted to really rip the federal government out from under us. Really all theyd have to do is get a few of those Reactors to meltdown. Also with the world as unstable as it is now, theres no true way to predict the U.S.'s heirs to the #1 slot. If anything the world will look like the medieval times, with many countries grasping for the chance but falling short. The world will probably go without a true Super Power for a good 100 years before someone comes to dominate whatever runs the world in that future be it Money/Technology/Colonies/ or just sheer size of a nation. But this isnt going to happen anytime soon, everyone likes to chop up rough times to the end of a nation. But really its just another bump in the road. We wont know which bump will be the wall that we slam into until after we run into it at full speed. At that point itll be easier to say i told you so. Heinsite is always 20/20 for now we can only hope were going in the right direction and do our best to keep things from spiraling out of control.

on Oct 01, 2009

Honestly? No, America won't always be a Super-Power. Everything comes to an end eventually. The story of the rise and eventual fall of America mirrors the story of human evolution and human nature.  I believe when the day comes that America falls the world will be at war. There probably won't be many other governments in the world at this point.

Human beings are violent, cruel, destructive creatures by nature. Sure there are plenty of us who chose to think our way out of problems instead of just attacking it, but not enough of us to change the big picture. We are Greedy by nature. Humans always want more then what it takes to sustain them. As we spread and cover the planet we use more and more of it's resources. Many of the resources we use are Non renewable. The world is on the brink of a massive energy crisis and no one wants to look at it long term. There have been attempts here lately to bring the energy crisis to the forefront of the news but that didn't last too long. A year ago you couldn't watch the news without hearing something about the "Energy Crisis" and Hybrids and other ways to go "Green". Now when you watch the news all you hear about is the failing economy, politics, and war.

America is the modern equivalent of the Roman Empire whether we want to admit it or not. Need I remind you all no-one ever thought the grand Roman Empire would fall. Especially not to a bunch of barbarians. But it did. As such we too will one day fall. Either from conquest by an outside influence or War, or by another civil war (if we have another civil war it won't be about race, it'll be about politics), or we'll die from global change and disasters. Our climate is changing....rapidly. I'm 31 years old. I'm old enough to have Seen the climate change just over the last 15 years. The summers get hotter. The winters get colder. There are more storms and hurricanes now per season then there ever were 10 years ago. The signs that our environment is suffering major damage because of us are everywhere if you so chose to open your eyes and see it. Just a few years ago a piece of the polar ice caps the size of RHODE ISLAND broke off and melted. At the current rate of ice melt in 20 years time Major Cities all over the world will be Under Water. One of those cities will be New York. Feel free to look that up if you don't believe me.

I do believe one day America won't be a Super-Power any longer. The only question in my mind is will anyone else be around to say "hey, America isn't a Super-Power anymore."? When the fall of civilization comes, because of our vast technological advances in the last few hundred years, that America will be one of the last countries to collapse. Even if the Government collapses a lot of the people will be fine. Me and My wifes sides of the family both own enough guns to have a small stockpile. We own land we can farm if we have to for food, and my wifes family even has some livestock. We can live without electricity and much contact from the "civilized" world if need be. A lot of people can't say the same though and looting and rioting will be a big problem. At that point martial law will be in affect and if you want to survive and make sure your family lives through the collapse then you better shoot first and ask questions later. Food, Medicines, and clean water should be what you stockpile first and those are things people will be killing for.

on Oct 01, 2009

Allegiance86


And anyone who thinks we dont provide anything more then "technology" you need to recheck your information, The U.S. is one of the biggest suppliers of food to third world countries that cant produce enough food to provide for their own people. Be it mostly rice, atleast its more then alot of countries are doing. I dont think Ive ever heard of Russia or China doing HUGE humanitarian missions. I have heard about them invading other nations just to show they still have what takes to take without any reasoning................Georgia........Tibet................but that fact will fall on deaf ears since the U.S. was SOOO out of line for doing something they should have done almost 15 years prior to invading IRAQ. If we should be pissed about anything, it should be the U.S.'s lack of action for 10 years, mostly because Democrats had office, and when it came to shooting off some rounds at an idiot that wanted a Genocide or felt ballsy enough to invest in WMD their reaction was under the table tactics that involved SpecOps and "PeaceKeeping" cause war is just soo damn barbariac......Yet war is the only thing that has ever been able to "clean house" when people like Hitler, Mussolini and a very long list of others took power and threatened the normalcy of everyday life.


As said in an earlier post. The wars in Iraq and Afganistan keeps the wolves from getting to our sheep.

Whilst I actually am Pro-American Iraqi's radicals were under the thumb and there was no real terrorist threat from Iraq, look at it now. Ofcourse your going to invest in humantarian aid when for so long the country was better off under Sadam than your government. Sadam Hussan's Iraq was being contained. Weather or not you should have finished the job 15 years ago you guys decided not to. Your government fabricated claims and jumped from one attempted justification to another in order to sell a bs war to the public. Not to mention pratically telling the majority of the world to "get f'd we don't care what you think, we are going in anyway."

As for protecting "the normalcy of everyday life" in WWII or any other war that's just crap. It's hardly ever an issue of protecting freedom and liberty, if that were the case you'd fight alot more wars. In WWII Britain had borrowed not been given so much money that you guys had to protect your investment sooner or later and lucky for your countries all important position in the world that you "forced Japans" hand as you said.

Now as I said I'm pro-American and your government is only protecting and trying to expand it's interest like every powerful nation before it but I'm all for the extremist US patriots learning some humility.

on Oct 01, 2009

where did we fabricate claims? i love this argument cause people bought the medias coverage of the war and thought we found nothing. WE DID FIND WMD, BE IT THE CIA DIDNT HAVE IT RIGHT BUT LIKE USUAL THEY NEVER DO.

And as far as Im concerned, sometimes you need to tell everyone to get f'd. Most of the world prefer to think by turning a blind eye to everything wrong with whats going on in it that itll settle itself and normalcy will return...........It doesnt. News flash ozmono Hitler could have taken Europe, his only mistake was actually thinking HE was a tactician and bossed his generals around. The U.S. isnt always looking out for their own interests........if thats the case why are their U.S. troops in places like Bosnia, Africa and half a dozen other places that have NO real effect on our economy or our "investments". People just love to point out how we only get into shit that effects us. AND your SEVERELY WRONG. You forget about the Tsunami in the south asian countries a few years back? We sent WARSHIPs to aid in humanitarian work....you might ask yourselves............why would the U.S. send a warship for a humanitarian effort? Ill tell you why, the U.S. Military is probably the best choice for the job, they have the tools, the resources and the ability to distribute those resources with hardly any issue of corruption that comes with a "non profit organization" that eats up 75% of all funds donated to them.

And as far as humility..........i got mine when i spent almost two years abroad. The REAL US Patriots know what real humility is. Living like the locals, showering only when you get the chance, not when you would like to. Even having to hold your own bows cause either your on a mission or because all the portapotties have been packed with shit for the last two weeks, or the portable showers and shitters are out of running water............How about not talking to your family for not just days but weeks? Not being able to change your clothes for days cause the clothes has to be sent to another Base to be washed and has a three day turn around. Sometimes you dont get your clothes back at all. How about being not being able to get any sleep for days cause some dickhead decided he was going to build a homemade explosive and blew himself to hell. And now your on a rotating schedule to guard the damn marketplace. or school, or local government building etc etc etc.

YOU KNOW NOTHING OF HUMILITY AND BEFORE YOU START TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING YOU DONT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT YOU MIGHT WANT TO PUT DOWN THE TV REMOTE AND THAT COLLEGE LEVEL BOOK, GO OUTSIDE AND REALLY EXPERIENCE THE REAL WORLD. NOT JUST THE BUBBLE WRAPPED WORLD YOUR 1ST WORLD COUNTRY KEEPS YOU IN BUT A THIRD WORLD COUNTRY WHERE YOU MIGHT BE KIDNAPPED SO SOME TERRORIST WANNABE CAN TRY AND FUND HIS PLANS FOR A BOMB TO BLOW THE LOCAL MARKETPLACE TO HELL.

Another thing, Afghanistan has absolutely NOTHING to offer the U.S. other then being finally stable after being at war for so damn long. The only thing that place offers is Drugs. Pot, Opium, and cocaine.

on Oct 01, 2009

Whenever somebody uses the phrase "US patriots", God kills a large cat. Which is why most of them are in the brink of extinction today.

As to the original question, no the US won't always be a superpower, and frankly chances are it'll stop being so really soon. Education is worse than ever, barely surviving thanks to the influx of foreign students, the legal system continues to put constrains on enterpreneurs with an ever-extending patent and copyright system, their economy just crashed around them, and their government's cowboy attitude in the aftermath of the WTC attacks has taken a toll on their credibility in the world market.

No, it won't be the end of civilization as we know it, we won't resort to barbarism, and there won't be a World War III when it happens. All it'll happen is that the world's economy will be based on the Euro rather than the dollar, promising students around the world will get their postgrads in Britain and Spain rather than the US, and multinationals will now list their offices in Paris as their HQs rather than the ones in Nebraska.

Which, if you look around you, is already starting to happen.

on Oct 01, 2009

China may be on the way up but it has long long way to go. I don't think you guys appreciate just how powerful US is. US has arguably the only real Blue Navy in the world.  Russia gave up on the idea of trying to compete with US naval superiority, because it's not possible.  Some countries maintain quazi-blue navy status, but they are all our allies. UK and France will possibly deploy super carriers that can be used in US naval formations.This will allow US to reduce its obligations under the NATO treaty.

US also has the best Air Force. While the F22 program has been somewhat contraversial, the contraversy was that it is so advanced there is nothing for it to fight. It's in its own league, so we can just as well go with the much cheaper F35, and maintain superiority with quantity.

US is also the first to deploy combat drones. It is a decade ahead of anyone else in this area. With Jet powered drones taking flight soon, I even forsee a deployment of drone supercarriers in the future! Drones give unparelled ground support to US forces, which themselves are best equipped in the world.

And if you doubt the US military superiority you should know that US spends more anually on its armed forces than the rest of the world combined.

Which brings us to the next topic, economic dominance. The US economy is unmatched by any nation in the world. Only way you can come close to the $14+ trillon GDP is by combining the economies of all 27 members of the European Union. As a matter of fact, the gross disparity between US economy and any other country is the reason for EU to form together. That way their economic power combined would allow them to dictate global economic polocies.

There has been a lot of talk about US borrowing too much. Well the thing about that is if a country defualts on it's loans the only way you can get the money is come and take it. And I doubt anyone would ever try.

I forsee US being the trend setter and global leader for at least next 50 years!

on Oct 01, 2009

Not only that, but the US has always paid back its loans. Might not be on the exact time tabe of other countries, But we do return it.

on Oct 01, 2009

Name the superpower nations in the 1900's, 1600's, or 1200's?  What about 1AD?  Are they all still superpowers?

The question is slightly off in its premise....

 

And no, China will not surpass the US if they hold on to their communism.  The US is tied so deeply to the Chinese that any detriment to the US will also impact China.  Once china goes full capitalist and self sufficient, then the world can start worrying.

 

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