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Published on April 29, 2008 By Nequa In Everything Else
As China continues to rise without any signs of stoping, it seems more and more likly that America is going to be second place. Will America fall into second, or will china succues stop and America will be number one until the next up and coming country wants to take first. What do you think?
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on Apr 30, 2008
Who will be the next super power?

FRANCE

                  
on Apr 30, 2008
To add... I think ALL OF YOU should watch this video:

After you watch it, have everyone you know watch it, and have them show it to everyone they know and so on.

It answers the question of this and many other similar threads everywhere:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=2pfwY2TNehw

Please, do come back and say what you thought of it.
on Apr 30, 2008
Yes.
on Apr 30, 2008
Nothing is forever. Empire rises and falls. Superpower comes and goes. Ideas were created then lost. Even if we cannot predict the future, the word "always" will never happen.

By the way, China was the superpower for 1000 years before the rise of Europe. Only currently did it re-rise out of the ashes of physical wars and ideological wars.
on Apr 30, 2008
The problem isn't that they make it possible to kill, or even that they make it easier to kill; its that they are way to prone to stupid accidents causing accidental deaths.This is due to a lack of respect for the firearm. The amount of "training" it would take to avoid accidents is literally minutes. As someone who grew up in a house that contained firearms, it is truly difficult to understand why a prospective owner wouldn't take the necessary minimal precautions to avoid accidents (trigger locks, keep the gun UNLOADED, lock up the ammunition, RESPECT THE GUN). But, this is a discussion for another forum. I'm done now.


A few minutes training would fix it, yet no one bothers. Something is fundamentally flawed with this equation.
on Apr 30, 2008
Russia no longer is a country but run by the Russian mafia.Gorbachev has his new party the Union of Social Democrats backed by money from the West.

Wait till the dollar is no longer the number one currency in the world.
Bill Clinton has already told us that the US won't be the number one super power in the world for long.Of course with Bill you don't whether that is instigation or prognostication.
on Apr 30, 2008
Well what are you suggesting Prastagus? Another american civil war? This is the technological age! The days of massive wars and are over (meet the days of massive "conflicts"!!). Nuclear weapons keep large nations from invading any other nation and the UN makes sure of that. You guys have to be realistic!

The only shocking thing i've noticed these days is how Darfur is still raging on. Here we are, at man's golden hour and we still have mass genocide... tisk tisk.
on Apr 30, 2008
Farmers and factory workers can not sustain a capitalist country.
I've never heard a dumber statement! Farmers and factory workers are the country.


Take emphasis on the "CAPITALIST" part. Farmers and factory workers are the country, yes. But they don't have the capital nor the education to invest in those very same factories and run them, thus the country would have a lot of workers, but very few business person/engineers/scientist/economists.


Second: the military, why do we insist on it so damn much? Oh that's right, because of the xenophobia. While the rest of the world focuses on coexisting in a bright future, we fence ourselves out in the corner in paranoia that everyone's out to get us. Carl Sagan said it best when he stated that we employ about half our resources and half of our best minds into pointless military efforts...


LOL, I accept I do not know who Carl Sagan is, but I must say he is somewhat mistaken about it being pointless. Most of the technological advances have been made because the Military had a need for it. Things like computers, the Internet, nuclear power plants, solar power cells, batteries, jet aircrafts, helicopters, satellites, the Jeep, chocolate. All of those things were funded and develop at some time for and by the military.

Good point about the xenophobia though, its seems to have increased exponentially since 2001.

on Apr 30, 2008
I'm not suggesting anything but merely points out nothing will be "always" and used China as an example. The demise or dimishing of a superpower have many ways which could be violent or not and could be from external or internal problems.

What the main question here is the status of "superpower". It can merely be diminished, instead of destroyed, to the point of almost equal to other major powers, which means no more "super/hyper" adjectives.

The Man's Golden Hour shibfilet referred to hadn't happened yet. Much of world is still in poverty and the UN goal of reducing set % poverty in the world won't be achieved in 2010 (I believe). World hunger amid rising food and energy prices doesn't help either. People still fighting over land, resources, ideologies, religion, and views of morality. This is the age of change and chaos. If we, humans, will have an golden hour that benefits majority of humanity, it won't be in these times or any times soon.
on Apr 30, 2008
Always is a very long time. Given the track record of history I think its safe to say that at some point the sovriegn entity that the united states is now will no longer be the top dog.

The likeliest scenario for this change will not be china or india comming to dominance but change in the sovriegnty of the country itself most likely in the form of a north american union with canada and mexico. once that happens then the usa will no longer be the country it once was. Mexico is already having a drastic demographic effect on the internal culture of the us(over 10% of the population of mexico already lives in the us).



on Apr 30, 2008
Well without the military you would be most likely speaking german japanese or russian and probably not having this nice theoretical conversation on the internet right now
on Apr 30, 2008
I have many rather sad views on current occupation of our homeland in the world, yet, it’s not a bad thing not to be a supper power if done properly. Sweden, once an ambitious Empire, defeated by a long war with the rising power of the Russian Empire, pawing the way into its decline as a dominant power. Now Sweden is one of the most successful countries in the world, with ether the highest or second highest living standards anywhere on the globe. I don’t mind, this edgy policy of US interventions be that good or bad, grinding to the halt. I don't mind Russia, China, India, or any other would be supper power rising in place, as long as US, while loosing this supremacy, will rise in social areas like Sweden. Intact I would favor, total collapse, the most humiliating defeat of out troops possible, the most disastrous terrorist attack capable (as horrific as it sounds) if it leads us to become the best place on earth to dwell in, to be completely socially secure and so on, just like Sweden.
on Apr 30, 2008
China will need to build more entertainment structures or their morale will drop quickly due to overpopulation.Hahaha.. I love that. In all seriousness, China is on the way up. Would it be so bad to be 2nd? America is due for some dramatic changes.


Very much the patriot but after I saw this I had to wonder, why not? We are hated around the world because frankly we are the King of the Hill. Let China take the lead and get picked on for the next half a century.

on Apr 30, 2008
Well what are you suggesting Prastagus? Another american civil war? This is the technological age! The days of massive wars and are over (meet the days of massive "conflicts"!!). Nuclear weapons keep large nations from invading any other nation and the UN makes sure of that. You guys have to be realistic!


I love optimism... even when its clearly misplaced.

World War I -- immediately after they decided that war was so horrible, there'd never be another one! Mankind had "learned its lesson" at long long last.

Ooops.

World War II -- Nuklear weapons made war a thing of the past, no one could stand up against them!

Korean War, Vietnam War...

And, finally, the UN could no more stop a nation from invading another nation than it could vote in its own taxes. All it can do is try to coordinate other nations to counter the aggressor -- which is still war.

And, ignoring all that, civil war is still quite possible.

The fact is, people are people; technological progress doesn't change human nature.
on Apr 30, 2008
[quote]no...wait, here's something even dumber! wow...  ...America will never die. If America dies, the entire world goes with us because of our nukes. Plain and simple.really unbelievable....... *sigh*[quote]

Wrong, by that logic the world should have ended when the soviet union broke apart. so we have historical evidence that this statement is incorrect.

[quote]And your intelligent arugment why this isn't so? Tell me, how will America die? [quote]
If we know that, then it would have already occured. It will happen slowly, most likly.

[quote]For us not to be a country anymore, we would have to be all killed enough where the few survivers essentially give up.[quote]

Wrong again. Yugosalvia, (the wars came later, but Yugoslavia stopped existing before any shooting started)

I mean, crap, Europe was a war zone for centuries and we still have France, Germany, Spain, etc. right?

Go look at an old map, the boarders are diferent then they used to be, parts of france are now in Italy, parts of Germany are now in france & until the late 19th cen there was no "germany" it was a few dozen different "germatic kingdoms"

Will we lose super power status? Sure, entirely possible. You can't be number 1 forever. But it will be a cold day in hell before america litteraly dies.


We already dies once, it was called the United confederation of States, (not to be confused with The confederete States of America). died without a single shot being fired.

so history contadicts what you are saying.

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