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Future politics, what do think it will be like when we can colinize other planets and fight space battles.
Published on April 29, 2008 By
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When humanity can colinize planets, and wage space warfae how will the world react, will we form one great nation of the world, divide up into diffrent alliances, or go of on are own in a world wide space race. Will that day be the beggingi of a new age or just another age where countyrs try to out do each other. Basically I am tyring to say is what do you think is going to happen earth and countrys when we reach Galciv2 technology? whenever that will be.
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danielost
on Jun 22, 2008
NASA is a big waste of money that can be used somewhere else like I don't know, this gas crisis thingyI disagree, NASA is very important its just a shame its ran by the U.S. government which is sadly ran by big business and their lobbyists. Every politician has his/her own agenda that helps which ever company helped them get into office. Which would validate your statement: Governments will staycorruptbut back to NASA; They would have created a ship (Project Prometheus) that would be the 1st big building block to inter-stellar space travel if the Government (Big Business) hadn't pulled their funding. they went from 400 million to 100 million in a year and of the 100 million i think 90 million was spent in closing fees for orders they could no longer afford. Project prometheus would have used a nuclear powerplant to propel it through space. Much like the Ion Drive in Deep Space 1 which was very successful.Pardon me if I was unclear.We shouldn't be spending big amounts of money on space travel so quickly until we fix some of the problems here, on Earth, otherwise the space programs will come crashing down. Basically what I am trying to say is, haste makes waste.
Which problems. World hunger, that is not caused by a lack of food. It is caused by a lack of money, infrastructure(ie money), and dictators trying to control their populations.
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UEF Soldier
on Jun 22, 2008
NASA is a big waste of money that can be used somewhere else like I don't know, this gas crisis thingyI disagree, NASA is very important its just a shame its ran by the U.S. government which is sadly ran by big business and their lobbyists. Every politician has his/her own agenda that helps which ever company helped them get into office. Which would validate your statement: Governments will staycorruptbut back to NASA; They would have created a ship (Project Prometheus) that would be the 1st big building block to inter-stellar space travel if the Government (Big Business) hadn't pulled their funding. they went from 400 million to 100 million in a year and of the 100 million i think 90 million was spent in closing fees for orders they could no longer afford. Project prometheus would have used a nuclear powerplant to propel it through space. Much like the Ion Drive in Deep Space 1 which was very successful.Pardon me if I was unclear.We shouldn't be spending big amounts of money on space travel so quickly until we fix some of the problems here, on Earth, otherwise the space programs will come crashing down. Basically what I am trying to say is, haste makes waste.Which problems. World hunger, that is not caused by a lack of food. It is caused by a lack of money, infrastructure(ie money), and dictators trying to control their populations.
no, world hunger isn't caused by lack of money. nope. infrastructure isn't money, i don't get where you got that from. dictators trying to control their populations? possibly, but i don't think that's the main cause. World Hunger is caused by the inability to co-exist. Its also caused by the climate. And there are other problems, like Global Warming, WAR, piracy, more war, and personal differences.
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Zydor
on Jun 22, 2008
World hunger, that is not caused by a lack of food. It is caused by a lack of money, infrastructure(ie money), and dictators trying to control their populations.
Another glib unaccountable solution for you - raise taxes by 5% to pay for the extra food, usually gets individuals reassessing their principles
Yea .... I know .... the Government should pay
Food riots over the last few months around the world were caused in the main by the switch to rape seed growing for ethanol production. Ethics went spinning out the window as soon as the cash till started ringing. Hand wringing and quivering emotion gets the 'ol warm feeling going before retiring to the comfortable air conditioned bed room, but does squat to actually sort the basic issue. Never will no matter how self satisfied individuals feel about simple solutions (the latter is a myth, there's no simple solution).
The real problem is a known one, not rocket science, and frankly not solvable - Human Nature. Self survival and Self Interest, its built into the vast majority of us in one degree or another - its part of our genetic make up - and it will not change overnight. It will take hundreds of millions of nights, whatever grand theory and high ground insomnia breaking statements say otherwise.
Regards
Zy
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MFarder
on Jun 22, 2008
First of all we never really need to leave Earth because EVERYTHING we need is here on Earth. If there is a resource crisis then we will develop newer ways to run our everyday lives like the hydrogen powered car which is already developed, but not released yet. We will make synthetic artificial resources from other resources before we develop *Planet Colonization* and *Hyper space travel*. It would cost billions of dollars to fund these ideas and no one really needs to or will pay this much money for a lost cause which we don't need or maybe will never need. To access the resources on other planets and asteroids think of all the resources it would take to reach these other planets. Will the profits really amount to more than the money required to get there. As for our increasing population I doubt that we will need to colonize other planets because Earth has run out of space. The government will probably put limits on the amount of children you could have such as was in China. I think one day in the distant future not near future will we actually colonize planets and asteroids. Keep in mind that there is no survivable atmosphere on other planets that we know of so far and we are not Vasari where we can alter our DNA and metabolisms to match our needs.
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danielost
on Jun 22, 2008
how did this go from politics to green stuff
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Thomas Fife
on Jun 22, 2008
how did this go from politics to green stuff
Because using non-replenishable resources is becoming less and less practical everyday, for example, oil gets more and more expensive by the day(seems like it doesn't it
), we will search space for a new resource or more likely, more of the resource that we ran out of. This is because humans are inert, we don't like change. If we found something that works we stick with it, regardless of the consequences sometimes. And that is what's wrong with society today; we don't want to find alternatives.
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Zydor
on Jun 22, 2008
how did this go from politics to green stuff
Politics is "The Art of the Achievable"
Green Stuff is "The Art of the Unachievable"
The common ground is both spend other peoples money, without being held accountable for a dime of it in any meaningful way, ending up with hugely fanciful "solutions" that enhance reputations but never solve the issues.
In Real Life, some issues are simply unsolvable, and whilst we should always strive for solutions to various issues (not bothering is plain silly); they must be practical solutions that really do work, not just sound nice and enhance reputations. Its life, and I doubt that will ever change sometime soon, unless someone invents a practical Magic Wand.
Regards
Zy
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Svyatoslav
on Jun 23, 2008
we never really need to leave Earth because EVERYTHING we need is here on Earth
-- That could be true...
It would cost billions of dollars to fund these ideas and no one really needs to or will pay this much money for a lost cause
-- I'm setting some high goals for myself, but I'm looking to open a company that will develop civilian and commercial spacecraft, terraforming techniques and materials, and much more.
-- I have a good idea of how I'm founding it but to keep it afloat I'm not entirely sure. possibly next gen weapons and pharmaceuticals.
-- Although this would be in 8-11 years. Maybe somebody else would do this before me, i can't possibly know so i will stay with my plan.
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Mac2411
on Jun 23, 2008
It will be just like it is now, except in space.
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MatBerryman2
on Jun 23, 2008
Quote: Just look at the Palestinians picking on the Israelites. They could go anywhere, but they want that one spot.
Hm I was going to take this tread seriously until I read this statement.
Yeah its all he Arabs picking on the Jews. Damn terrorists! (\Sarcasm)
The way this statement is worded leads me to beleive that the author thinks that the Palestinians actions are unreasonable and unprovoked.
The fact that the powers in control of Israel have spent the last 50 years subgating(sp?) the Arab people. Yes the Arabs fight back but if Israel has the right to defend itself why not Palestine?
Currently the death ratio stands at 6 Arabs for every Israel so you can hardly the Palestinians picking on Israel. Regularly Israel's soldiers march into Palestinian territory with heavily armoured bulldozers. There have been cases of Children being fired upon by tanks for throwing rocks at them!!!!
And lets be fair the Israel(or more accuratly the land it occupies) belonged to the Arab people long before the state of Israel was set up.
Now at no point am I trying to stir up racial or religous hatred (because I'm not a Facist- Honest). Of course there alot to say both ways and both sates have committed horrendous atrocities against each other. But it is Israel that is the aggressor and its actions are against the defenceless poor not against an organised militarty. That is why in my opinion they are acting unethically.
Sure lots of groups acting 'in the name of Palestine' have commited horrible terrorist attacks upon Israel but does that mean that any action Martial against the People of Palestine (and applied retrospectively of course) is suddenly justified?
Sorry to disrupt you conversation I just get a wound up when people say quiet 'simple' things without thinking about it for more than a few seconds.
And doubly so when not a single person tries to rebulk them.
Mat,
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USAF_Ronin
on Jun 23, 2008
Quote: Just look at the Palestinians picking on the Israelites. They could go anywhere, but they want that one spot.Hm I was going to take this tread seriously until I read this statement. Yeah its all he Arabs picking on the Jews. Damn terrorists! (\Sarcasm)The way this statement is worded leads me to beleive that the author thinks that the Palestinians actions are unreasonable and unprovoked.The fact that the powers in control of Israel have spent the last 50 years subgating(sp?) the Arab people. Yes the Arabs fight back but if Israel has the right to defend itself why not Palestine? Currently the death ratio stands at 6 Arabs for every Israel so you can hardly the Palestinians picking on Israel. Regularly Israel's soldiers march into Palestinian territory with heavily armoured bulldozers. There have been cases of Children being fired upon by tanks for throwing rocks at them!!!!And lets be fair the Israel(or more accuratly the land it occupies) belonged to the Arab people long before the state of Israel was set up.Now at no point am I trying to stir up racial or religous hatred (because I'm not a Facist- Honest). Of course there alot to say both ways and both sates have committed horrendous atrocities against each other. But it is Israel that is the aggressor and its actions are against the defenceless poor not against an organised militarty. That is why in my opinion they are acting unethically.Sure lots of groups acting 'in the name of Palestine' have commited horrible terrorist attacks upon Israel but does that mean that any action Martial against the People of Palestine (and applied retrospectively of course) is suddenly justified?Sorry to disrupt you conversation I just get a wound up when people say quiet 'simple' things without thinking about it for more than a few seconds. And doubly so when not a single person tries to rebulk them.Mat,
For those who haven't seen it and want a humorous view of this post:
Mel Brooks: History of the World Part 1; Coming Attractions for History of the World Part 2: Jews in Space.
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Zydor
on Jun 23, 2008
It will be just like it is now, except in space.
Oh Goody - more to fight about
Regards
Zy
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punner
on Jun 23, 2008
one thing i hope for is that when we do eventual start habbitation that religions don't control planets or we could end up with worlds full of acylit's
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Svyatoslav
on Jun 23, 2008
i think we all know that'll happen.. =\
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DessanT
on Jun 23, 2008
death everywhere
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