Just my place where I can put what I want, and read what people think about what I said.

America has one of the highest Prisoner rates in the world. This seems to be a indicator of criminals not feeling threatend if caught. Prisoins may even make into even better criminals. Also it provites money for gangs because they can smuggle in drugs and then sell it. I belive that to keep this syestem we would need to have harsher methods like reading crinimals mail to check for illegial communcaten and drugs.  Other methods would have to be inacted to. Another reason is to change the sysetem complety. I would suggest only hardcore crinimals going to jail. The other ones would could be publictly humilated like wearing a sign saying what they did. or being but in stocks and having tomatoes thrown at them. Pride is a powefull tool. For people how are inbetween Harcore criminals and first timers they could have corproal punishment like being hit by a cane. Singapore does this and has low theft rate because of it. This may be cruel but they should lern a lesson from abushing their freedom.


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on May 30, 2008
also armed revolt? the threat of armed revolt is what has created this mess.


I think he means armed revolt against the government. Overthrowing them and starting over again.

Liberal fucktard judges constitute the majority of our appellate court system, the state courts aren't much better.


And that seems like a complete and total overstatement, but whatever.

on May 30, 2008
What can you do?Well, I'm not entirely sure about what he means with this question. Are you asking if there is anything we can actually do with the prison system . . . ? Or are you asking spacepony what he can actually do now? I seem to think it's the former and if you are asking it, then you are the problem. I hate using that cliche (or any cliche for that matter), but what it comes down to is if you think you have no power, then you don't. This country is supposed to be ours. We are supposed to direct change. But we are constantly told that we don't and that people no longer gather and make change, so we become more complacent, which in turn ends up creating a self fulfilling prophecy. If you believe that things won't change for the better and that you have no power, then that is exactly what is going to happen.And no, I don't believe positive thoughts and beliefs alone will change things, but actions without some forethought don't usually turn out for the best.-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------I actually wanted to respond to the article about the GPS tracking and inmates. "That capability has some critics questioning whether the technology is too Orwellian."I for one am pretty paranoid about most things, but I don't see how using GPS tracking on inmates is Orwellian. Is having some technology attached to your leg any different than cameras and a whole slew of guards? The proposed idea of the GPS attached to your ankle while not in jail seems a bit more Orwellian, but I think I would take that option over jail/prison time. The whole thing about the speaker telling you that you are in a "bad area" is preposterous, but as a tracking device for people who would normally have been in prison seems like a decent alternative. So you know when they leave the state or that they've been visiting a purported drug safehouse seems more viable than just letting convicted people walk.Who this would apply to and the rule surrounding it seem like a more important question that whether or not Big Brother is an issue. Not all technology equates to Big Brother. Now when we all are tracked, then I will raise hell.


I meant what Jobs spacePoney can still do aftear he lost several of his licenses.
on May 30, 2008
Conservative does not equal hard ass. The current set of laws regarding things like use of appropriate force are based on fictional foundation. They aren't part of the law at all. It's like the Miranda rights, you have no actual law saying that. What you have is a ruling by a judge or a panel of judges that says you do. You have the right to remain silent and the right to legal counsel, but there is no legal foundation for making the police inform you of your rights. Stare decisis was not meant to allow judges to create new law for others to follow.

The defense of yourself, others, and your property is inviolate and cannot be infringed upon. All restrictions go against constitutional law by restricting what are considered natural rights and protected by the enumeration clause. Philadelphia self defense laws are founded upon the "retreat to a wall" ruling. This philosophy dictates that you are only allowed to defend yourself when you have no other choice, and propagates to the other defense scenarios. It has no legal foundation and is clearly unconstitutional as states are not allowed to infringe on your natural rights. If you had a true constructionist judge, he would have given no such instructions to your jury. If your appellate courts were constructionist, they would never have made and upheld such a flawed ruling in the first place. Without the liberal judges rewriting the legal foundation of society, you would never have been charged in the first place, and by rights could have killed the guy for attacking your mother.
on May 30, 2008
Conservative does not equal hard ass

Very true, this is simply how liberals have painted them because conservatives have painted liberals as hippies lol. It goes back and forth.

and by rights could have killed the guy for attacking your mother.

That's pretty hard ass man.
on May 30, 2008
beat him up not kill him. From what SpacePoney said is that the guy knocke his mothers phone out of her hand and then push her. Killing him would have him in Huge trouble. Even though a father did kill his son over a crap cake.
on May 30, 2008
My mother was seventy five at the time and had she fallen and broken her hip it could have proven fatal. Thank god my mother is physically fit for a woman her age.

I would like to mention that I am currently filing an appeal on this case and I think I have found a way I am going to win.

Bases is that I was given an illegal sentence. My charge was originally classified as an M2 the district attorney asked to have it raised to an M1. The Judge declined the motion. I was however convicted of an M1 and it is stated on my record as an M1 and I was sentenced based on an M1. The only case law on this is out of Massachusetts and in both cases the convictions were tossed on the bases of an implied right to a speedy sentence

The defendant's motion pursuant to Mass.R.Crim.P. 30(a), as appearing in 435 Mass. 1501 (2001), to "vacate sentence, dismiss indictment, and credit defendant for time served under an erroneous sentence," alleged, in essence, that the eighteen to twenty year term imposed on the previously filed conviction was an illegal sentence. It is from the order denying this motion that the defendant now appeals, arguing that (1) he was denied his right to speedy sentencing guaranteed under the State and Federal Constitutions; (2) procedures in connection with sentencing on the indictment violated his procedural and substantive due process rights; and (3) the motion judge impermissibly considered an unproven accusation at the time of sentencing.(5)

Discussion. The procedure that lies at the root of this appeal -- indefinitely postponing sentencing with respect to a criminal conviction by placing it "on file" after a finding of guilt -- has been recognized, and approved of, as a common-law custom dating back to the earliest days of the Commonwealth. Initially developed as a form of probation, the practice was one of several ameliorative remedies to harsh legal punishments. See Grinnell, Probation as an Orthodox Common Law Practice in Massachusetts Prior to the Statutory System, 2 Mass. L.Q. 591, 592-612 (1917) (reprinted as Grinnell, The Common Law Origin of Probation in Massachusetts and, Before 1917 and the Federal Probation Act, in the First Federal Circuit, 45 Mass. L.Q. 70 [1960]).(6) The practice was referred to well over a century ago in Commonwealth v. Dowdican's Bail, 115 Mass. 133, 136 (1874):



So, that might lead to me obtaining post conviction relief.


Oh, I can do any work that does not require state or federal licensing. I can be a ditch digger, waiter, gas station attendant, most anything in the construction industry as a laborer.

I am not in a protected class so I can be fired by any company that decides they don’t want “someone like me” working for them. I was in fact fired from one job that paid me $750.00 per week for part time work (twenty hours a week) for that very reason back in October.

One occuppation that is open to me and I am not kidding, Law enforcement either as a cop, prison guard or even as a lawyer... I could still even be a judge or a politition.. but not a real etate agent!
on May 30, 2008
"My mother was seventy five at the time and had she fallen and broken her hip it could have proven fatal."

Context is everything, I doubt I'd kill someone for such, but in the hospital they would go for sure. My personal reaction is not the issue though, it's what reciprocation is in your rights. When you assault a person in a manner that could end in their death, you should expect a retaliation on the same level. An attempt to relieve you or someone else of life, liberty or property can be met with a removal of their own life, as simple as that. That the guy almost surely wasn't attempting to kill his mother is why he'd probably live in my case, but it was no less a lethal attack than if he'd shot at her and missed. You don't fuck with old people.

Edit: Good luck on getting your conviction thrown out. If that avenue doesn't work, you might try appealing the after effects as well. It is also unlawful to restrict access based on prior convictions, the government is not allowed to discriminate against an individual based on prior conduct. I expect you wouldn't have much luck with it, but the law would definitely be on your side, voting rights are the only thing they have the power to abridge for criminal conviction. The ownership and use of firearms is explicitly guaranteed and has no such provision, they're flat corrupt to let that one slide.
on May 30, 2008
Mine being a misdomeanor I can own a gun as soon as my parole / probation is over.

as far as me beating him up what I ddi wrong was I stopped and made a phone call. I did not call 911 I called my lawyer. It was concluded that I had him subdued and at the point the "coming to the aid of another" exemption to the law was no longer present.

It was stated that because I stopped, saught legal consul and then beat him up that no imminint danger existed or could I resonably assert that I thought one did.. How could there be an imminint danger if I can stop doing it, call someone and then begin again?

That is what got me screwed, that and my dragging him by his balls out the door! I really don't think he will be fathering any kids... ever!
on May 30, 2008
He replied, I said thank you, hung up and then beat the living tar out of the punk.


You deserved the jail time.

There's a fine line between giving aid and handing out revenge, and from the description you gave, you crossed it. Grabbing him and holding him was fine, but there is zero reason for you to beat him up. It's up to the judge to hand out punishments - it's not up to you, nor should it be.

So the next time you see someone being hurt do not try to save them...


It wasn't saving her that landed you in jail. It was going beyond saving her and performing extra, totally unnecessary violence.


He got eighty-nine days in jail and a simple assault.


He just stole a cell phone. You beat him up. Yeah, you should've handled the situation differently. It's not your right to teach people lessons. You're not supposed to be judge, jury, and executioner. That's the job of the legal system.

You could end up unemployable for the rest of your life just because you decided to give them a lesson they would not forget.


The lesson is to be given by the legal system, not by you. Sorry, but when people give out their own "justice," we end up with a lot of people going overboard and handing out punishments far beyond what the other person really deserves. Anger and revenge often make crimes a lot worse than they really are, and blow up situations beyond control. A third party to make judgments and hand out sentences is the accepted way of doing things, because a third party is a lot more level headed and reasonable than somebody burning with anger and a desire for revenge. Sorry, but I really don't have much sympathy for somebody who beats up another person, even if the other person wronged them. Two wrongs do not equal a right, and revenge is not a healthy way of handling a crime.
on May 30, 2008
I meant what Jobs spacePoney can still do aftear he lost several of his licenses.


Haha. Nice. That's what happens when I let someone else's post influence me. I completely thought this is what you meant when I first read it. Sorry, I should just go with my gut reaction.
on May 31, 2008
The legal system run by lawyers that gives child molesters less jail time than drug dealers is better than personal justice eh?

The law does not define justice, the law is supposed to be defined by it. Which is sadly not the case.

That he knew he was going to get it for his reasonable retaliation and had the forethought to call his lawyer is a sign of intelligence, if not enough to realize that calling his lawyer was going to cause him more trouble in the end. Assuming I was thinking clearly, not a guaranteed thing, I would avoid any actions which could be construed as an admission of guilt. That necessarily excludes preparation for the actions of our unjust legal system.

Two wrongs do not make a right, but two wrongs do require two wrongs. If someone attacks someone without cause and you put them in the hospital, there was only one wrong. If you educate yourself on the meaning of justice instead of listening to modern drivel, you'll find that by definition, he dispensed justice.

There is no justice in sending someone to prison for dispensing justice, thus it was the legal system that caused an injustice.

If you're interested, read up on natural law, it is the foundation of our legal system. The current perversion comes from the ass backward idea that justice is the promotion of harmony. There was great promotion of harmony in Germany through the final solution, there sure as hell wasn't justice.
on May 31, 2008
We should never forget that everything Adolf Hitler did in Germany was "legal" and everything the Hungarian freedom fighters did in Hungary was "illegal."

--Martin Luther King, Jr.
on May 31, 2008
I meant what Jobs spacePoney can still do aftear he lost several of his licenses.Haha. Nice. That's what happens when I let someone else's post influence me. I completely thought this is what you meant when I first read it. Sorry, I should just go with my gut reaction.


Thats o.k I should have made more clear to avoid confusion.
on May 31, 2008
This seems to be getting intresting. But the thing is for a legal system to work you need to rely on the people how are in charge. And people are going to need to rely on there gut and their brains and that is going to mean that there is going to difrent court orders for a case becaue a judge has a diffrent view on the situtaion. The thing is that you really cant change that. But you can remove gray areas in the law. Watching Law and order I see lawyers going back and forth debating what something means so it can suite there case. These grey areas should be removead so someone can say this is what this supreme cour order means so here it goes. I dont think I made that really clear so if you dont now what I am saying I can try to refrase it.
on May 31, 2008
He replied, I said thank you, hung up and then beat the living tar out of the punk. You deserved the jail time.There's a fine line between giving aid and handing out revenge, and from the description you gave, you crossed it. Grabbing him and holding him was fine, but there is zero reason for you to beat him up. It's up to the judge to hand out punishments - it's not up to you, nor should it be.
So the next time you see someone being hurt do not try to save them... It wasn't saving her that landed you in jail. It was going beyond saving her and performing extra, totally unnecessary violence.
He got eighty-nine days in jail and a simple assault.He just stole a cell phone. You beat him up. Yeah, you should've handled the situation differently. It's not your right to teach people lessons. You're not supposed to be judge, jury, and executioner. That's the job of the legal system.
You could end up unemployable for the rest of your life just because you decided to give them a lesson they would not forget.The lesson is to be given by the legal system, not by you. Sorry, but when people give out their own "justice," we end up with a lot of people going overboard and handing out punishments far beyond what the other person really deserves. Anger and revenge often make crimes a lot worse than they really are, and blow up situations beyond control. A third party to make judgments and hand out sentences is the accepted way of doing things, because a third party is a lot more level headed and reasonable than somebody burning with anger and a desire for revenge. Sorry, but I really don't have much sympathy for somebody who beats up another person, even if the other person wronged them. Two wrongs do not equal a right, and revenge is not a healthy way of handling a crime.


You have it correct.. 100%

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